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ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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The ALP meltodwn in NSW continues, I give it 2 months before the ripple effects become major in Victoria.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw-crisis-deepens-as-police-minister-quits
THE crisis in the NSW Government deepened last night when new Police Minister Matt Brown was forced to resign from the cabinet just three days into the job after it emerged that he simulated a sex act with another MP.
A witness told The Australian that Mr Brown had stripped down to his "very brief" underpants and danced to loud "Oxford-Street-style" techno music on a green leather Chesterfield couch he had recently ordered for his office.
The witness said Mr Brown "mounted the chest" of Wollongong MP Noreen Hay and made a lewd remark about his actions to Ms Hay's adult daughter.
The incident follows last week's upheaval in NSW Labor, in which former premier Morris Iemma was forced out of office following a series of crises over electricity privatisation, economic management and public transport.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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I think these filthy Brimbank Labor Unity pigs learnt it from their NSW right cousins.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24327687-5006784,00.html
New Premier a 'shouting, bullying self-promoter'
But insiders say the volatile personality of the new Premier may not be ideally suited to a new job that requires him to tackle a huge budget deficit and stand up to unions who helped install him.
His management style, they say, is to shout at staff and bully to get what he wants: "In some people it builds up, but he has a quick temper, it flashes very quickly".
The best way to prompt Mr Rees into action, according to an alleged pattern of behaviour, is to cause him public embarrassment. Then Mr Rees will respond.
Residents of Kurnell in southern Sydney spoke yesterday of their immense difficulty in attracting help from Mr Rees as their homes were threatened during the construction of a government desalination plant.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Q: What happens when you put lipstick on a Labor Unity pig?
A: It's still a Labor Unity pig.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Sounds familiar wrote:
I think these filthy Brimbank Labor Unity pigs learnt it from their NSW right cousins.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24327687-5006784,00.html
New Premier a 'shouting, bullying self-promoter'
But insiders say the volatile personality of the new Premier may not be ideally suited to a new job that requires him to tackle a huge budget deficit and stand up to unions who helped install him.
His management style, they say, is to shout at staff and bully to get what he wants: "In some people it builds up, but he has a quick temper, it flashes very quickly".
The best way to prompt Mr Rees into action, according to an alleged pattern of behaviour, is to cause him public embarrassment. Then Mr Rees will respond.
Residents of Kurnell in southern Sydney spoke yesterday of their immense difficulty in attracting help from Mr Rees as their homes were threatened during the construction of a government desalination plant.
Jeez I am shocked, another Labor Right hack who knifes plenty on the way to the top. Another political hack where the ambition far outweights the ability (think Shorten). Another self serving individual who has no concept and no inclination to be a SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE. No wonder people are flocking to The Green. Cannot wait for the rout in NSW when it finally comes.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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I'm deeply shocked! wrote:
Jeez I am shocked, another Labor Right hack who knifes plenty on the way to the top. Another political hack where the ambition far outweights the ability (think Shorten). Another self serving individual who has no concept and no inclination to be a SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE. No wonder people are flocking to The Green. Cannot wait for the rout in NSW when it finally comes.
With the likes of David Clarke in NSW, it would pay to be careful for what you wish for! 
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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http://news.theage.com.au/national/alp-set-to-lose-control-of-nsw-councils
Labor is preparing to lose control of councils throughout NSW with local government election results expected to begin trickling in after polls closed at 6pm (AEST).
Early anecdotal results suggest voters have turned on Labor following a tumultuous week in state politics during which premier Morris Iemma, his deputy John Watkins, four cabinet ministers and a parliamentary secretary departed.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Getting closer wrote voters have turned on Labor Music to my ears!!! A feast for my eyes!!
On Friday Lateline, Virginia Trioli interviewed Mark Arbib and Michael Kroger. She didn't let Mark Arbib off the hook at all.
By contrast to his Insight appearance where he looked like a trapped animal, he was assured, almost polished, and had the usual ALP 'fob offs' about voters wanting to check ALP power federally by installing opposition governments at State level.
The difference in performance between these two programs is telling about the Labor values which the 'voters have turned on'.
On Insight, Arbib was forced to comment on Government program delivery and policy issues that matter to the people.
On Lateline, Arbib was asked to comment on how Labor got to power and how to keep it in power and glossing over performance questions. Issues that matter to Mark Arbib.
What Labor politicians whose career path is ascendency through machinations within the Labor machine have long ago forgotten, it seems, is that they are there to do the best possbible for their community. Not move traffic corridors between marginal and 'safe' suburbs. Not build pipelines from nothing, ignoring all other options. Not corrupt planning processes that leave entire communities at risk of explosion. And not ensure the haves keep getting more and help them stay in power.
Thankfully, we voters vote on issues that matter to them. Bring it on in Brimbank... maybe even here the people might push those Labor snouts out of the trough!!
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Whaddya reckon, NSW communities who've expunged Labor from their Councils will enter a new period of prosperity?
Let me see, if it happened in Brimbank, we could save buckets of community money going to one a select group within a sporting code; we could share funding equally; we needn't pay to support the Councillor's relatives and those relatives' pet associations which give them and their friends jobs; we might get some smarter Councillors who actually understand strategic planning and implementation and business efficiency... sounds really attractive to me.
I doubt the Labor pollies even comprehend the damage that scandal after scandal topped by Iguanagate really mean. When the Labor ruling class demand obsequious servility from adult voters it smacks of an exaggerated sense of entitlement. Australians LOVE to chop down those straggly tall poppies... and keep them trimmed for a very, very long time!
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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New era of prosperity in NSW wrote:
Whaddya reckon, NSW communities who've expunged Labor from their Councils will enter a new period of prosperity?
Let me see, if it happened in Brimbank, we could save buckets of community money going to one a select group within a sporting code; we could share funding equally; we needn't pay to support the Councillor's relatives and those relatives' pet associations which give them and their friends jobs; we might get some smarter Councillors who actually understand strategic planning and implementation and business efficiency... sounds really attractive to me.
I doubt the Labor pollies even comprehend the damage that scandal after scandal topped by Iguanagate really mean. When the Labor ruling class demand obsequious servility from adult voters it smacks of an exaggerated sense of entitlement. Australians LOVE to chop down those straggly tall poppies... and keep them trimmed for a very, very long time!
They are rimming each other beautifully. The complete lack of any integrity, loyalty, and faithful dervice are flying out the window as those dumped from cabinet decide to exact revenge by 'retiring'. No doubt this will be influenced by whether they are subject to the overly generous pension for life provisions. Rees is going to have a swag of by-elections to deal with. The Costa editorial was just perefect, self serving and hypocritical, but perfect. Once again The Greens are the big winners in the NSW council elections so thankfully the swing is to the left not to the right. I wonder if the ALP has figured out yet that traditional ALP voters are sick to death of the dictatorial shift to the right that the party underwent in the last two decades. Have they figured out that members have left in droves because they do not just want to be'useful idiots' only used on election day to man polling places with how to vote cards. They do not want to be lorded over by factional hacks and acolytes. They do not want to be abused and derided by 'bright young things' that got the best of what older working people fought for. We do not want otherwise talentless wannabes, good only for branch stacking and 'fund raising' placed in powerful positions. Ahh so many pollies, so little time. I here the baseball bats being shaped and polished as I type, I cannot wait. Oh and is everyone as disappointed with Rudd & Gillard as I am?
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Costa them a lot wrote:
New era of prosperity in NSW wrote:
Whaddya reckon, NSW communities who've expunged Labor from their Councils will enter a new period of prosperity?
Let me see, if it happened in Brimbank, we could save buckets of community money going to one a select group within a sporting code; we could share funding equally; we needn't pay to support the Councillor's relatives and those relatives' pet associations which give them and their friends jobs; we might get some smarter Councillors who actually understand strategic planning and implementation and business efficiency... sounds really attractive to me.
I doubt the Labor pollies even comprehend the damage that scandal after scandal topped by Iguanagate really mean. When the Labor ruling class demand obsequious servility from adult voters it smacks of an exaggerated sense of entitlement. Australians LOVE to chop down those straggly tall poppies... and keep them trimmed for a very, very long time!
They are rimming each other beautifully. The complete lack of any integrity, loyalty, and faithful dervice are flying out the window as those dumped from cabinet decide to exact revenge by 'retiring'. No doubt this will be influenced by whether they are subject to the overly generous pension for life provisions. Rees is going to have a swag of by-elections to deal with. The Costa editorial was just perefect, self serving and hypocritical, but perfect. Once again The Greens are the big winners in the NSW council elections so thankfully the swing is to the left not to the right. I wonder if the ALP has figured out yet that traditional ALP voters are sick to death of the dictatorial shift to the right that the party underwent in the last two decades. Have they figured out that members have left in droves because they do not just want to be'useful idiots' only used on election day to man polling places with how to vote cards. They do not want to be lorded over by factional hacks and acolytes. They do not want to be abused and derided by 'bright young things' that got the best of what older working people fought for. We do not want otherwise talentless wannabes, good only for branch stacking and 'fund raising' placed in powerful positions. Ahh so many pollies, so little time. I here the baseball bats being shaped and polished as I type, I cannot wait. Oh and is everyone as disappointed with Rudd & Gillard as I am?i to am sick of the a-holes that run and ruin the alp.we have some good honest hard working members,but they to not stack branches or back stab and go nowhere because of that.good people never get anywhere in this dog eat dog world,true?
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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is everyone as disappointed with Rudd & Gillard as I am?
well, actually, I've personally done pretty well out of the new federal govt so far. My child care costs have gone down (or rather the rebate up), I don't have to pay that private insurance medicare surcharge anymore, and my daughter's school got funding for a whole lot of computers a few months ago. I also just received a voucher in the mail, saying that my 13 year old daughter can get free dental care.
I'm not saying everything is amazing/perfect or whatever, and I understand others such as pensioners might have a different experience, but we (my family) seemed to have fallen into the exact demographic that is being targeted - we earn enough to benefit from tax cuts in medicare, but not too much to be effected by means testing in other areas.
Especially with the child care changes, I reckon our family will be something like $2000 to $3000pa better off than the last financial year.
So I'm not disappointed, actually.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Good for you.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Not too bad for me wrote:
[quote]Especially with the child care changes, I reckon our family will be something like $2000 to $3000pa better off than the last financial year.
great, you will be able to use that money to pay for the huge increses in petrol and groceries.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Costa them a lot wrote Oh and is everyone as disappointed with Rudd & Gillard as I am?
Yep! They have to be two of the most lacklustre, boring, wooden, evadisive excusologists ever elected (even with Julia's constantly changing hairstyles, colours and accessories). No a lot of inspirational leadership in this grouping.
Worse, they completely lack the political nouse to deliver pre-emptive strikes. Eg, Carer and Pensioner bonuses and now the single-pensioner rate.
If you're stupid enough to admit while you are the government that pensions are unliveable YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY ANNOUNCE A BANDAID to tide people over.
Remember, the Opposition KNOW what they neglected in government and are very effectively undermining Rudd/Gillard credibility.
Fiscal responsibility is an esoteric concept, stop hiding behind it.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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ALP member wrote:
Costa them a lot wrote:
New era of prosperity in NSW wrote:
Whaddya reckon, NSW communities who've expunged Labor from their Councils will enter a new period of prosperity?
Let me see, if it happened in Brimbank, we could save buckets of community money going to one a select group within a sporting code; we could share funding equally; we needn't pay to support the Councillor's relatives and those relatives' pet associations which give them and their friends jobs; we might get some smarter Councillors who actually understand strategic planning and implementation and business efficiency... sounds really attractive to me.
I doubt the Labor pollies even comprehend the damage that scandal after scandal topped by Iguanagate really mean. When the Labor ruling class demand obsequious servility from adult voters it smacks of an exaggerated sense of entitlement. Australians LOVE to chop down those straggly tall poppies... and keep them trimmed for a very, very long time!
They are rimming each other beautifully. The complete lack of any integrity, loyalty, and faithful dervice are flying out the window as those dumped from cabinet decide to exact revenge by 'retiring'. No doubt this will be influenced by whether they are subject to the overly generous pension for life provisions. Rees is going to have a swag of by-elections to deal with. The Costa editorial was just perefect, self serving and hypocritical, but perfect. Once again The Greens are the big winners in the NSW council elections so thankfully the swing is to the left not to the right. I wonder if the ALP has figured out yet that traditional ALP voters are sick to death of the dictatorial shift to the right that the party underwent in the last two decades. Have they figured out that members have left in droves because they do not just want to be'useful idiots' only used on election day to man polling places with how to vote cards. They do not want to be lorded over by factional hacks and acolytes. They do not want to be abused and derided by 'bright young things' that got the best of what older working people fought for. We do not want otherwise talentless wannabes, good only for branch stacking and 'fund raising' placed in powerful positions. Ahh so many pollies, so little time. I here the baseball bats being shaped and polished as I type, I cannot wait. Oh and is everyone as disappointed with Rudd & Gillard as I am?i to am sick of the a-holes that run and ruin the alp.we have some good honest hard working members,but they to not stack branches or back stab and go nowhere because of that.good people never get anywhere in this dog eat dog world,true?
Yes that is totally true. I am an ex ALP Member, I gave up on them years ago. It has been ruined by the very people I dexribed in my previous post. Like who wants to be in a party with Mark Arbib, I mean really, how the hell do they get to where they have. The 'True Believers' in the party either need to get back control or get out. I saw no hope so I got out. I agree with you that some fantastic, good hearted talented people remain members of the ALP but alas they will be squashed, and only used at election time for manning polling places. That is all the 'party' thinks they are good for.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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All the Labor commentators are hiding behind 'longevity' as the excuse for Labor's demise in WA and NSW.
It'd be easier to dresss a bull in a tutu than get a Labor politician to accept ANY responsibility.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Remember the Australian Workplace Agreements (AWAs) that everyone voted the libs out for?
Well here is Labor's AWA.
At least people are onto the "spin" of it pretty much straight away.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/new-labor-contracts-as-bad-as-awas
LABOR'S much-vaunted individual contracts have proved to be as bad for employees as the agreements they replaced, the controversial Australian Workplace Agreements.
"The transition while on paper looks like an improvement, in practice it's totally ineffective," she said.
"(The new agreements) are a wolf in sheep's clothing."
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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Cry Wolf wrote:
Remember the Australian Workplace Agreements (AWAs) that everyone voted the libs out for?
Well here is Labor's AWA.
At least people are onto the "spin" of it pretty much straight away.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/new-labor-contracts-as-bad-as-awas
LABOR'S much-vaunted individual contracts have proved to be as bad for employees as the agreements they replaced, the controversial Australian Workplace Agreements.
"The transition while on paper looks like an improvement, in practice it's totally ineffective," she said.
"(The new agreements) are a wolf in sheep's clothing."
Yes, anger is growing out there in the community about Workchoices. Despite the ALP spin Workchoices is still alive and well. Nothing has actually changed despite the Gillard spin. Many believe that she must have done a deal with big business to keep the legislation in place. The ALP have not and will not say anything in favour of unions and hence workers. They are happy to take millions from the union movement at election time but that is it. Personally I hope they are a one term government, they are just bloody awful; not a Labor government. At least with the Libs we knew who the enemy was. It's amazing you never hear a word from them about workplace deaths and negligent companies. You never hear them say they are going to pursue corporate crooks that enrich themselves through insider trading. You only hear the talk about controlling workers through Workchoices Lite Legislation.
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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To be fair to Rudd and Gillard:
The Australian Building and Control Commission was never a Workchoices initiative, it was established following the Cole Royal Commission into what anyone halfway honest will concede can be extraordinarily dodgy practices by the construction unions (and here everyone means the CFMEU regardless of others having members the industry). They made it clear before the election that it would remain until 2010.
They made it clear in their pre-election policies that that they would do away with AWA's and the more pernicious elements of Workchoices and rollout Fairwork Australia in late 2008.
In the wake of workchoices they have to embark on the much (try at least 50 years) overdue standardisation of awards which is unbelievably complex and difficult.
They also have to ensure that they don't stuff the economy. Their parts of this country (WA for instance) where good solid ALP voters are passionate about keeping workplace arrangements in place that allow them to be paid far above award rates.
This is a very complex issue - not really an area for simplistic sloganeering!
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Re:ALP Meltdown 3 Years, 8 Months ago
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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24364078-2702,00.html
NEW "one-strike" unfair dismissal laws for small business will give employers the right to sack people after just one warning about their performance, under workplace laws proposed by the Rudd Government.
In another concession to business, Ms Gillard yesterday declared that Labor would maintain a restriction introduced under Work Choices on the content of union bargaining claims.
Strikes over social causes such as the environment and anything linked to management rights would be banned.
ACTU president Sharan Burrow said she was concerned that Labor's proposed new umpire, Fair Work Australia, would not have sufficient power to settle disputes.
The ACTU chief criticised restrictions against unprotected industrial action, saying it would give employers "enormous" powers to punish workers.
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