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#1132834
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago  
http://brimbank-leader.whereilive.com.au/news/story/st-albans-crime-claim-outrage/

Meanwhile, the Police Association of Victoria has renewed calls for the State Government to dramatically boost police numbers.

Secretary Sen-Sgt Greg Davies said the state’s chronic shortage was reflected in Brimbank where the two stations, Sunshine and Keilor Downs, were 89 officers short.

Mr Davies described the situation in the West as "woefully under-resourced" and "one of the hardest-hit areas in the state".
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#1132886
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 2 Weeks ago  
Go to the beginning of this thread and read what inspector Mahoney had to say.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/police-aware-of-indian-attack-problem-for-past-two-years-simon-overland-admits/story-e6frf7jo-1225821543657

VICTORIA'S top cop has admitted police realised two years ago there was a problem involving crime against Indians.

Indians are over-represented in robbery statistics and there is a racist element to some attacks, Police Commissioner Simon Overland says.

"We recognised this problem a long time before it hit the public.
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Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 2 Weeks ago  
This final 'truth' that some elements of racism are involved in those abhorrent attacks is confirmation that the Victorian government's spin machine dominates the police.

Having said that, I believe that Australian/Victorian government policy has pushed us over this edge. Sociological studies of migrant populations have shown that the last migrant group in is the most demonised and given the worst work. And, the greater the number the worse the reaction from any already marginalised existing residents.

That is how a policy of unrestricted adn unregulated study-to-migrate schemes results in a massive influx of migrants into socially disadvantaged suburbs and sparks social unrest that becomes a police matter.

The police are right, those attacks can be both racial and opportunistic at the same time. What a pity such honesty was not a trademark of police communications from the outset of this problem.
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Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 2 Weeks ago  
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/too-few-cops-too-many-soft-judges/story-fn4ut938-1225823092214

VICTORIANS overwhelmingly want more cops on the beat and judges to stop being soft on offenders.

The survey found Melbourne's chronic drunken violence problem - and the lack of police to control it - were major concerns.

Ninety-four per cent of Victorians demanded a much stronger visible presence of police on Melbourne's troubled streets.

Sixty-four per cent of Victorians said there were too many licensed premises in Melbourne's CBD and most (55 per cent) want all CBD pubs and clubs to be forced to close at 1am.
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#1132911
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 2 Weeks ago  
We need 300 more police plus replacements for the ones that
have left and not been replaced about 2000 all up
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#1132913
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 2 Weeks ago  
I don't think the murder of the woman in Whitty St was ever solved either.
http://brimbank-leader.whereilive.com.au/news/story/unsolved-brimbank-s-open-crime-cases/

ARSON, vicious assaults and armed robberies are among the worst crimes in Brimbank that still remain a mystery to police.

As of last week, there were more than 40 serious crimes listed as “unsolved” on the Crime Stoppers website and police have renewed calls for the public’s help in catching the perpetrators.

Crime Stoppers spokeswoman Jo Baird urged people to check the website’s unsolved crimes section and the pictures of those wanted by police.
http://www.crimestoppers.com.au/victoria
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#1132947
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 1 Week ago  
Welcome to Brumby's Victoria. This is another fine mess you've got us into, Johnny!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/fewer-state-police-on-beat-20100128-n1pu.html

VICTORIA Police has a smaller proportion of officers on the beat of any state or territory, new data has revealed.

The low proportion of police in operational roles, combined with Victoria having the fewest police per head of population, means the state has just 206 police on the beat for every 100,000 people, compared with 237 in NSW and a national average of 250.
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#1132949
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 1 Week ago  
Well Duh wrote:
Welcome to Brumby's Victoria. This is another fine mess you've got us into, Johnny!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/fewer-state-police-on-beat-20100128-n1pu.html

VICTORIA Police has a smaller proportion of officers on the beat of any state or territory, new data has revealed.

The low proportion of police in operational roles, combined with Victoria having the fewest police per head of population, means the state has just 206 police on the beat for every 100,000 people, compared with 237 in NSW and a national average of 250.


Wherever you look the impact of tight fisted, tight arsed mean spirited Scrooge McBrumby is evident on Victoria's landscape.

Police, child protection, early childhood teachers, disadvantaged youth, public transport all stuffed due to the tight arsed, lowest common denominator approach of Scrooge McBrumby.

The social impacts of Scrooge's approach are on display all over melbourne and particularly in Sunshine where his obvous desire to spend as little as possible in safe seats (remember no $$ for Kororoit) has seen the area become even more disadvantaged and social unrest spiral to new lows.

Scrooge McBrumby needs to be blasted out of office if disadvantaged communities like ours are ever to break the cycle of disadvantage.
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Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month, 1 Week ago  
Don't worry, we will have $20 million worth of lights on the West Gate bridge soon.

The light will make International Indian Students feel safer as they walk over the bridge.

Oops, did Brumby forget the pedestrian access to the bridge is not allowed.

Oh well, I suppose if you are going to jump off the bridge you can feel safer walking up the gang plank.
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#1132963
Re:Police Attend SunRRA Meetings 1 Month, 1 Week ago  
According to this news, more police will apparently start patrolling the streets by April of this year 2010. I will have to see it to believe it. I'm sure alot of these additional officers probably wont be sent to the areas that need more officers no doubt. Just my opinion. Read the link below and decide.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/police-boost-of-120-new-cops-to-reclaim-violent-streets/story-e6frf7jo-1225759390439
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#1132964
Re:Police Attend SunRRA Meetings 1 Month, 1 Week ago  
Brumby when questoned on police numbers the other night
was well we have the best hospitals in Australia
well that must make you feel good when you ,your husband
or child are about to be robed or bashed
it must make the Indians feel better99144
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#1133024
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
I think people have to start waking up to fact that Brumby is a do-nothing idiot.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/indian-envoy-attacks-victoria-over-violence-20100203-ndl0.html

INDIA'S top envoy to Australia has delivered a stinging complaint to Governor-General Quentin Bryce over attacks on Indians in Melbourne, labelling Victoria a state ''in denial'' over the severity of the problem.

She praised police in NSW, Queensland and South Australia for tackling racist attacks but said Victoria was taking too long to respond. Citing more than 100 incidents of racist violence against Indians, she told Ms Bryce Victorian authorities were in denial over the scale of the attacks.
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#1133036
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
Or, are the attacks just a symptom of a failed policy?

For a moment I'd like to ignore the plight of the individuals who have suffered attacks and been abused by slumlords and unscrupulous employers and unpoliced shonky 'education' providers.

If most Indian student-migrants who choose to migrate to Australia via a course of study came to Victoria, they then established themselves almost overnight as a large, identifiable minority and took up many unskilled job displacing the locals who might have aspired to these positions, isn't it conceivable that what is happening is what will happen as visionary Labor pushes Australia to 36million people by 2050? And that becomes a police resourcing matter, and a court matter and you really just don't recover once your society becomes a basket case.

Victoria's recent experience provides the clear evidence that proves that growth by rapid migration is not something we can 'plan' for and 'provide' for. Brumby didn't. Why should any Australian government do so. And, in the absence of help, people in crisis need more and more police.
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#1133050
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/leak-haunts-minister/story-e6frf7kx-1225826909023

VICTORIA police intelligence-gathering systems have been exposed as outdated and slack after police files were found in the possession of criminals.

Opposition Leader Ted Baillieu said it was another example of the collapse of law and order management under the State Government.
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#1133074
Re:Police Attend SunRRA Meetings 1 Month ago  
Since alot of you feel strongly about this issue, as do i, why not take a few minutes of your time when your free to write a quick email or letter to your local MP and ask for more police, more police, and also dont forget More Police, in the Brimbank area.

Can you all consider that at least? Believe me, if alot of people email and write then it will grab their attention more closely if alot of people are concerned and voice their concerns directly to their Local MP in writing or email or phone, you get the idea folks.

Just my thoughts. Cheers.
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#1133079
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
Yes, many of us already do this. But do recall that in the fall of Brimbank, Madden gave evidence that he 'dismissed representations from Sunshine people because they were political'. A nice kind of slap in the face.

What is Brumby looking to fight the election on? Law and order, public transport. All issues brought to local MPs attention but labelled 'political'. If only they'd listened instead of spun..
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#1133081
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
You'd think Simon Overland would have learnt something from our own inspector Mahoney. But no.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/indians-slam-overlands-advice-to-look-poor-to-avoid-being-bashed-20100206-njxk.html


AN INDIAN student spokesman has slammed as ridiculous Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Simon Overland's advice that Indian students should not work as taxi drivers and should "look as poor as you can" to avoid being assaulted.

Federation of Indian Students of Australia secretary Gautam Gupta later blasted Mr Overland's advice, saying taxi drivers had a right to feel safe no matter what their nationality. "It's a workplace. Every workplace should be safe. I think it's a ridiculous idea. It is blaming the worker. It is blaming the victim," he said.
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#1133092
Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
Today's announcement of tightening up on immigration via VET short courses might make the job of Victoria Police a little easier, politically.

But the advice that student migrants or dependents of student visa holders should avoid driving taxis and look poor is so laughable it is utterly tragic. Those who look poor are not immune from assault, in fact, the young and the down and outers in the West have experienced assaults so often that they actually consider being assualted as 'normal'. Many would not even bother reporting it to the police because they no it's futile. Strange world we live in.

I really think that someone with half a brain should vet media releases made in the Police Commissioner's name.
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Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
http://www.theage.com.au/national/baillieu-in-race-attack-on-brumby-20100208-nna5.html

VICTORIA has a serious and increasing problem with racist attacks on Indian students, but the state government is in denial and blaming the victims, Opposition Leader Ted Baillieu said last night.

Mr Baillieu also took aim at police Chief Commissioner Simon Overland, condemning his weekend advice to international students that they should "look poor" by not displaying expensive items such as laptops and iPods.

Mr Baillieu said the problem of racial violence had been allowed to escalate while the government provided excuses, attracting international condemnation.

His attack follows a stinging rebuke from Indian high commissioner Sujatha Singh, who told Governor-General Quentin Bryce Victoria was "in denial" over the problem.
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Re:Police resourcing debate looms 1 Month ago  
http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/story/85138

SUNSHINE residents are infuriated at drunks turning their town into an “open-air pub” as they continue to drink in public, despite the council introducing laws more than five years ago to stop it.

resident, Gerard Tulip, said he often had to escort his wife and employees to and from Sunshine train station, amid fears they could be harassed or even assaulted by drunks.

Star witnessed more than six people drinking alcohol on Hampshire Rd at 11am last Wednesday, openly flouting council by-laws which forbid street drinking in public.

Brimbank City Council acting general manager of city development Leigh Harrison said public drinking was no more of a problem than in other areas of Melbourne.

But Mr Harrison admitted the council had handed out more than 100 fines for public drinking in the past year.

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Read this story from 2006 and ask yourself if anything has changed.
http://www.sunshine.asn.au/content/view/106/44/

Why is there no solution to this chronic problem?
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