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deb waren-smith |
Are you still collecting wool fr veterans and war widows?
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OMG |
You gotta wonder wrote:
Isn't it great that ANYONE can be elected to parliament...
Let's all put in and buy him a shovel so he can get his head out of the sand......where has this man been?????
This is the official transcript from Victorian Parliament.
Title Planning: Sunshine development
House COUNCIL
Activity Questions without Notice
Members LOVELL; MADDEN
Date 23 March 2010
Page 910
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23 March 2010 COUNCIL
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Page 910
Planning: Sunshine development
Ms LOVELL (Northern Victoria) -- I direct my question without notice to the Minister for Planning. I refer the minister to the social housing development in Dickson Street, Sunshine, for which the minister issued a planning approval last December, and I ask: will the minister confirm that he issued a planning permit despite there being excessive rock on the site and that the developer has now pulled out of the project?
Hon. J. M. MADDEN (Minister for Planning) -- In relation to any particular project and the specifics around it -- why a decision was either made or not made -- I am happy to seek the technical details in relation to those determinations from my department to be provided to the member.
Supplementary question
Ms LOVELL (Northern Victoria) -- A spokesperson for the government, Chris Owner, is quoted in last week's Brimbank Leader as saying that the project was not yet dead and that the government is determined to get the social housing units built in Sunshine, and I ask: where will the minister now locate these units and will he commit to a thorough planning process that involves the Brimbank council and local residents to ensure that they are satisfied with the new site and that the development meets local planning schemes?
Hon. J. M. MADDEN (Minister for Planning) -- I welcome Ms Lovell's interest in this matter. I hope the context of her asking the question is that she is enthusiastic about public or social housing, because I am not sure that that question expressed an enthusiasm for it. I am concerned that the questions I receive consistently in this place in relation to public and social housing are critical of public housing rather than supportive of it.
I welcome Ms Lovell's interest, but I am not sure if she is enthusiastic about social housing or critical of social housing.
I make this point very clear in relation to the process around these projects -- members of the opposition seem to forget this in terms of the process; if they understood the planning process when it comes to these public housing projects, they would frame their questions differently -- that you could not possibly build any of these projects without getting information from the council in relation to how and where you might build them. You have to ask the local council for specific advice around a particular site -- --
Ms Lovell interjected.
Hon. J. M. MADDEN -- I can hear the squeaking from the other side of the chamber, but I am not sure whether it is supportive or critical of public housing. I will give Ms Lovell the benefit of the doubt this time only and pretend that she is enthusiastic about public housing.
The process is that we notify local government of the intention for a project to be considered. Local government has the opportunity to either inform us about its concerns regarding the project or consult very rapidly with its community in different ways. Some councils will elect to do that and some will elect not to do that. There is an opportunity for them to do that quite rapidly -- that is, by knocking on the doors of the surrounding dwellings and notifying the occupants directly very quickly. That is not hard. They could at least do a quick survey. They do not necessarily have to do that, but they could do that if they wanted.
Mr Finn interjected.
Hon. J. M. MADDEN -- There you go, Mr Finn. If local government wants to, it can undertake that process. Some choose to and some choose not to.
Mr Finn -- I did.
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Hon. J. M. MADDEN -- Well done, Mr Finn. I hope that gets him a promotion to the front bench to show Mr Baillieu's commitment to the western suburbs. When the Leader of the Opposition in the Assembly, Mr Baillieu, is committed to the western suburbs he will put Mr Finn on the front bench; otherwise Mr Finn's words are not worth a cracker.
Thank you for listening, President. I make this point: local government has the opportunity to consider the project and have an input to the government as the planning authority, either to express concerns or to have the matter considered in more detail by an independent panel. It can have those matters considered. If a local council -- whatever local council that might be -- elects not to either express some concerns to us or have those matters reconsidered, then we take that as support from the local council.
I say to Ms Lovell: I am not the proponent of these projects; I am the planning authority. They are considered on their merits. If people believe there are issues that do not warrant merit, councils and local communities have an opportunity to ask for those matters to be reconsidered, otherwise those projects proceed as per the application. We welcome the opportunity to build that social housing because as a government we are proud of social housing and the delivery of that social housing. We wear our hearts on our sleeves, because again the most vulnerable in our community -- and I know Mrs Coote knows this -- sometimes do not have the opportunity to have input into the planning system.
We welcome the opportunity to deliver well-considered social housing with input from local government. If local government elects not to make that contribution or input, then we assume the project is well supported, and we wholeheartedly endorse those projects with enthusiasm.
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You gotta wonder |
Isn't it great that ANYONE can be elected to parliament...
This is the official transcript from Victorian Parliament.
Title Planning: Sunshine development
House COUNCIL
Activity Questions without Notice
Members LOVELL; MADDEN
Date 23 March 2010
Page 910
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23 March 2010 COUNCIL
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Page 910
Planning: Sunshine development
Ms LOVELL (Northern Victoria) -- I direct my question without notice to the Minister for Planning. I refer the minister to the social housing development in Dickson Street, Sunshine, for which the minister issued a planning approval last December, and I ask: will the minister confirm that he issued a planning permit despite there being excessive rock on the site and that the developer has now pulled out of the project?
Hon. J. M. MADDEN (Minister for Planning) -- In relation to any particular project and the specifics around it -- why a decision was either made or not made -- I am happy to seek the technical details in relation to those determinations from my department to be provided to the member.
Supplementary question
Ms LOVELL (Northern Victoria) -- A spokesperson for the government, Chris Owner, is quoted in last week's Brimbank Leader as saying that the project was not yet dead and that the government is determined to get the social housing units built in Sunshine, and I ask: where will the minister now locate these units and will he commit to a thorough planning process that involves the Brimbank council and local residents to ensure that they are satisfied with the new site and that the development meets local planning schemes?
Hon. J. M. MADDEN (Minister for Planning) -- I welcome Ms Lovell's interest in this matter. I hope the context of her asking the question is that she is enthusiastic about public or social housing, because I am not sure that that question expressed an enthusiasm for it. I am concerned that the questions I receive consistently in this place in relation to public and social housing are critical of public housing rather than supportive of it.
I welcome Ms Lovell's interest, but I am not sure if she is enthusiastic about social housing or critical of social housing.
I make this point very clear in relation to the process around these projects -- members of the opposition seem to forget this in terms of the process; if they understood the planning process when it comes to these public housing projects, they would frame their questions differently -- that you could not possibly build any of these projects without getting information from the council in relation to how and where you might build them. You have to ask the local council for specific advice around a particular site -- --
Ms Lovell interjected.
Hon. J. M. MADDEN -- I can hear the squeaking from the other side of the chamber, but I am not sure whether it is supportive or critical of public housing. I will give Ms Lovell the benefit of the doubt this time only and pretend that she is enthusiastic about public housing.
The process is that we notify local government of the intention for a project to be considered. Local government has the opportunity to either inform us about its concerns regarding the project or consult very rapidly with its community in different ways. Some councils will elect to do that and some will elect not to do that. There is an opportunity for them to do that quite rapidly -- that is, by knocking on the doors of the surrounding dwellings and notifying the occupants directly very quickly. That is not hard. They could at least do a quick survey. They do not necessarily have to do that, but they could do that if they wanted.
Mr Finn interjected.
Hon. J. M. MADDEN -- There you go, Mr Finn. If local government wants to, it can undertake that process. Some choose to and some choose not to.
Mr Finn -- I did.
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Page 911
Hon. J. M. MADDEN -- Well done, Mr Finn. I hope that gets him a promotion to the front bench to show Mr Baillieu's commitment to the western suburbs. When the Leader of the Opposition in the Assembly, Mr Baillieu, is committed to the western suburbs he will put Mr Finn on the front bench; otherwise Mr Finn's words are not worth a cracker.
Thank you for listening, President. I make this point: local government has the opportunity to consider the project and have an input to the government as the planning authority, either to express concerns or to have the matter considered in more detail by an independent panel. It can have those matters considered. If a local council -- whatever local council that might be -- elects not to either express some concerns to us or have those matters reconsidered, then we take that as support from the local council.
I say to Ms Lovell: I am not the proponent of these projects; I am the planning authority. They are considered on their merits. If people believe there are issues that do not warrant merit, councils and local communities have an opportunity to ask for those matters to be reconsidered, otherwise those projects proceed as per the application. We welcome the opportunity to build that social housing because as a government we are proud of social housing and the delivery of that social housing. We wear our hearts on our sleeves, because again the most vulnerable in our community -- and I know Mrs Coote knows this -- sometimes do not have the opportunity to have input into the planning system.
We welcome the opportunity to deliver well-considered social housing with input from local government. If local government elects not to make that contribution or input, then we assume the project is well supported, and we wholeheartedly endorse those projects with enthusiasm.
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Amoush |
Did anyone see this?
RSL surrenders
By Alesha Capone
16th March 2010 11:05:11 AM
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RESIDENTS have welcomed a Sunshine RSL decision last week to scrap a proposal to build 30 social housing units on its land.
But the RSL’s local and state presidents contradicted each other about whether the decision was made for community or financial reasons.
The plans, which would have seen disadvantaged women and families living next to a venue which served alcohol and had pokies, drew widespread criticism from Sunshine residents.
The decision not to go ahead with the proposal in its current form was made at an RSL committee meeting on Thursday.
Sunshine RSL president David Twidle declined to comment when Star called him last week. He reportedly told another newspaper the decision to cancel the social housing scheme was made due to “community backlash”.
But the president of RSL Victoria David McLachlan told Star the decision was made “purely for financial reasons”.
“It’s a subject of further consideration given that the original proposal was not found to be financially viable with the desired outcome for the sub-branch,” he said.
A West Sunshine resident who asked not to be named alleged the social housing project was cancelled because of “higher than expected building costs with less profit to the developer and the RSL”.
“The president is trying to save face and not be the bad guy because the proposal was not properly developed and the building costs were found to be much higher than first thought,” the resident said.
President of the Sunshine Residents and Ratepayers Association Darlene Reilly said she heard “rumours” the social housing developer Baulderstone were getting “cold feet”, but not the RSL.
“Whatever the reason, the community’s pleased they’ve done what they’ve done. Everyone’s very relieved,” she said.
“It’s fantastic. The community fought very hard and we’re glad they’ve listened. We welcome their about-face.”
Brimbank City Council’s general manager of city development Stephen Sully also welcomed the RSL decision.
“Council identified specific problems with the proposed development of 30 dwellings at the Dickson Street site in terms of design, density and car parking, and for these reasons recommended that the Minister for Planning not approve the development,” he said. |
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bestie wrote:
omn1potent wrote:
close proximity to the CBD with excellent services. This must not change.
We need confirmation in writing from the state government that this will not be developed.
Oh hahaha  lol lol hehe he he
Seriously, thats the funniest thing I have heard in months..
Thanks for sharing
Mate from where I live currently, Sunshine rocks. |
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